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'''<span style="font-size:13.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span style="color:#474747">WE COULD HAVE A PAGE HERE WITH INFO ABOUT THE HISTORY OF PLACEBO AND THE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT:</span></span>''' | '''<span style="font-size:13.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span style="color:#474747">WE COULD HAVE A PAGE HERE WITH INFO ABOUT THE HISTORY OF PLACEBO AND THE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT:</span></span>''' | ||
| − | '''<span style="font-size:14.0pt" lang="NO-BOK"><span style="color:#474747">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1297390/pdf/jrsocmed00004-0023.pdf</span></span>''' | + | '''<span style="font-size:14.0pt" lang="NO-BOK"><span style="color:#474747">[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1297390/pdf/jrsocmed00004-0023.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1297390/pdf/jrsocmed00004-0023.pdf]</span></span>''' |
| − | ''' '''<br/> '''<span style="font-size:14.0pt" lang="NO-BOK"><span style="color:#474747">[https://placeboarchive.org/data-forte/history/ <span style="color:black">https://placeboarchive.org/data-forte/history/</span>]<br/> <br/> https://www.nursingschoolhub.com/placebo-effect/</span></span>'''<br/> | + | ''' '''<br/> '''<span style="font-size:14.0pt" lang="NO-BOK"><span style="color:#474747">[https://placeboarchive.org/data-forte/history/ <span style="color:black">https://placeboarchive.org/data-forte/history/</span>]<br/> <br/> [https://www.nursingschoolhub.com/placebo-effect/ https://www.nursingschoolhub.com/placebo-effect/]</span></span>'''<br/> |
'''<span style="font-size:14.0pt" lang="NO-BOK"><span style="color:#474747">About lack of reporting placebo content</span></span>'''<br/> Golomb BA, Erickson LC, Koperski S mfl. What’s in placebos: Who knows? Analysis of randomized, controlled trials. Ann Intern Med 2010; 153: 532-5. | '''<span style="font-size:14.0pt" lang="NO-BOK"><span style="color:#474747">About lack of reporting placebo content</span></span>'''<br/> Golomb BA, Erickson LC, Koperski S mfl. What’s in placebos: Who knows? Analysis of randomized, controlled trials. Ann Intern Med 2010; 153: 532-5. | ||
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Laporte JR, Figueras A. Placebo effects in psychiatry. Lancet 1994; 344: 1206-9. | Laporte JR, Figueras A. Placebo effects in psychiatry. Lancet 1994; 344: 1206-9. | ||
| − | Joyce CRB. Placebo and complementary medicine. Lancet 1944: 1279-81. | + | Joyce CRB. Placebo and complementary medicine. Lancet 1944: 1279-81.<br/> '''Joseph Kleijnen found 1100 publications about placebo'''<br/> Kleijnen JMP de Craen AJM, van Everdingen J mfl. Placebo effect in double-blind clinical trials: a review of interactions with medications. Lancet 1994; 344: 1347-9. |
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The famous review (Jean Pierre <span style="font-family:Wingdings" lang="NO-BOK">J</span> ) <br/> Hróbjartsson A, Gøtzsche PC. Is the placebo powerless? An analysis of clinical trials comparing placebo with no treatment. New England Journal of Medicine 2001; 344: 1594-602. | The famous review (Jean Pierre <span style="font-family:Wingdings" lang="NO-BOK">J</span> ) <br/> Hróbjartsson A, Gøtzsche PC. Is the placebo powerless? An analysis of clinical trials comparing placebo with no treatment. New England Journal of Medicine 2001; 344: 1594-602. | ||
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Logic or the lack of it in the definition<br/> Gøtzsche PC. Is there a logic in the placebo? Lancet 1994; 344: 925-6. | Logic or the lack of it in the definition<br/> Gøtzsche PC. Is there a logic in the placebo? Lancet 1994; 344: 925-6. | ||
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Gunver Sophie Kienle and Helmut Kiene review of 800 publication<br/> Kienle GS. Der sogenannte Placeboeffekt. Illusion, Fakten, Realität. Stuttgart, BRD: Schattauer Verlagsgesellschaft mbH, 1995. | Gunver Sophie Kienle and Helmut Kiene review of 800 publication<br/> Kienle GS. Der sogenannte Placeboeffekt. Illusion, Fakten, Realität. Stuttgart, BRD: Schattauer Verlagsgesellschaft mbH, 1995. | ||
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Kienle GS. Kritische Analyse der wissenschaftlichen Basis des sogenannten Placeboeffekts. Bedeutung des Placeboarguments für die Erfahrungsheilkunde. Acta Medica Empirica (Erfahrungsheilkunde) 1997; 5: 298-306. | Kienle GS. Kritische Analyse der wissenschaftlichen Basis des sogenannten Placeboeffekts. Bedeutung des Placeboarguments für die Erfahrungsheilkunde. Acta Medica Empirica (Erfahrungsheilkunde) 1997; 5: 298-306. | ||
| − | Kienle GS, Kiene H. The powerful placebo effect: fact or fiction? Journal of Clinical Epidemiology 1997; 50: 1311-8. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9449934 | + | Kienle GS, Kiene H. The powerful placebo effect: fact or fiction? Journal of Clinical Epidemiology 1997; 50: 1311-8. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9449934 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9449934] |
THE START OF IT ALL – (BEVARE OF ALL THE PITFALLS _ WE CAN MENTION A LOT HERE – TELL ME IF WE SHOULD AND I WILL ADD) | THE START OF IT ALL – (BEVARE OF ALL THE PITFALLS _ WE CAN MENTION A LOT HERE – TELL ME IF WE SHOULD AND I WILL ADD) | ||
| − | Beecher HK. The powerful placebo. Journal of The American Medical Association 1955; 159: 1602-6. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13271123<br/> | + | Beecher HK. The powerful placebo. Journal of The American Medical Association 1955; 159: 1602-6. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13271123 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13271123]<br/> '''THE FIRST CONTROLLED TRIAL – INVOLVES HOMEOPATHY; Joseph Dietl (1804-78) in 1849 – he only used ant tart. Comparing venesection, diet and homeopathy)[https://archive.org/details/b21710429 https://archive.org/details/b21710429]''' |
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Revision as of 20:54, 20 August 2018
Jörg: REASONS WHY HOMEOPATHY CAN NOT BE PLACEBO! is not a statement.
Andreas: Material on Placebo
WE COULD HAVE A PAGE HERE WITH INFO ABOUT THE HISTORY OF PLACEBO AND THE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1297390/pdf/jrsocmed00004-0023.pdf
https://placeboarchive.org/data-forte/history/
https://www.nursingschoolhub.com/placebo-effect/
About lack of reporting placebo content
Golomb BA, Erickson LC, Koperski S mfl. What’s in placebos: Who knows? Analysis of randomized, controlled trials. Ann Intern Med 2010; 153: 532-5.
The debate about placebo in the Lancet
Saintonge C de, Mark D, Herxheimer A. Harnessing placebo effects in health care. Lancet 1994; 344: 995-8.
Johnson AG. Surgery as placebo. Lancet 1994; 344: 1140-2.
Thomas KB. The placebo in general practice. Lancet 1994; 344:1066-7.
Laporte JR, Figueras A. Placebo effects in psychiatry. Lancet 1994; 344: 1206-9.
Joyce CRB. Placebo and complementary medicine. Lancet 1944: 1279-81.
Joseph Kleijnen found 1100 publications about placebo
Kleijnen JMP de Craen AJM, van Everdingen J mfl. Placebo effect in double-blind clinical trials: a review of interactions with medications. Lancet 1994; 344: 1347-9.
The famous review (Jean Pierre J )
Hróbjartsson A, Gøtzsche PC. Is the placebo powerless? An analysis of clinical trials comparing placebo with no treatment. New England Journal of Medicine 2001; 344: 1594-602.
Hróbjartsson A, Gøtzsche PC. Placebo interventions for all clinical conditions (Cochrane Review). I: the Cochrane Library 2004; 3. Chichester, UK: John Wiley & Sons, Ltd (oppdatert).
Logic or the lack of it in the definition
Gøtzsche PC. Is there a logic in the placebo? Lancet 1994; 344: 925-6.
Gunver Sophie Kienle and Helmut Kiene review of 800 publication
Kienle GS. Der sogenannte Placeboeffekt. Illusion, Fakten, Realität. Stuttgart, BRD: Schattauer Verlagsgesellschaft mbH, 1995.
Kienle GS, Kiene H. Placebo effect and placebo concept: A critical methodological and conceptual analysis of reports on the magnitude of the placebo effect. Alternative Therapies in Health and Medicine 1996; 2: 39-54.
Kienle GS. Kritische Analyse der wissenschaftlichen Basis des sogenannten Placeboeffekts. Bedeutung des Placeboarguments für die Erfahrungsheilkunde. Acta Medica Empirica (Erfahrungsheilkunde) 1997; 5: 298-306.
Kienle GS, Kiene H. The powerful placebo effect: fact or fiction? Journal of Clinical Epidemiology 1997; 50: 1311-8. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9449934
THE START OF IT ALL – (BEVARE OF ALL THE PITFALLS _ WE CAN MENTION A LOT HERE – TELL ME IF WE SHOULD AND I WILL ADD)
Beecher HK. The powerful placebo. Journal of The American Medical Association 1955; 159: 1602-6. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13271123
THE FIRST CONTROLLED TRIAL – INVOLVES HOMEOPATHY; Joseph Dietl (1804-78) in 1849 – he only used ant tart. Comparing venesection, diet and homeopathy)https://archive.org/details/b21710429
